Aubri ([info]aubri) wrote,
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LXG

I just watched League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for the first time. As you may have surmised, it wasn't high on my priority list.
Good movie, if you don't watch the last half hour.

I was with them right up until the end, then my faith in the writing just fell apart. Hell, the writing just fell apart. There were some oddities before that, like Mina's inexplicable tolerance for sunlight. I mean, what are the three things everyone knows about vampires? Suck blood, hate garlic, killed by sunlight or stake. With her science I'm sure she'd have been able to whip up some sunblock, but it would have been nice to have it explicitly stated. Note: Being in Venice would have been a lovely time for Tom to offer to take her out for Italian food after they save the city. Oops.

I kept waiting for the scene where Quartermain borrowed Tom Sawyer's style and filled the air with flying lead. You know, the scene where he faces off against the Invisible Man's evil duplicate, so his "one shot" style doesn't work. Presumably this would take place just after he sees the reflection in the Phantom mask of Tom struggling with the invisible assassin, and shoots a hanging object so it swings down to hit the invisible guy. Of course, that guy sees it coming and leaps out of the way, leaving Tom to get smacked by it. Quartermain can't see his target, so he has to rely on luck instead of skill. Meanwhile, Moriarty escapes. I'm sure you could work in Quartermain's mortal wound somehow. The way it was shot, you could barely even SEE the evil Invisible Man behind Tom. (Yes, I'm aware of the irony of this statement.)

The real Invisible Man catching fire seemed like a strange scene with no real point. He should have either been swathed in bandages at the funeral (a la the '30s Invisible Man movie) or else had his invisibility ruined by the scarring, as was suggested by his most severe burns being visible.

The fight between Mina and Dorian was just a little 'off'. Not bad, and the spiking-him-to-the-wall thing was very refreshing, but her line about breaking her heart wasn't as good as it could have been. I'd have played off the vampire thing again.

Copy-Hyde's end was... lacking. There was a bunch of hints like "Not the whole thing!" and "He's burning through elixir at an accelerated rate", but they never really... WENT anywhere with it. My take is this: The more you drink, the more you hulk out, but the quicker it ends. Hyde's advantage was that he retained more of his intellect, so he'd be able to outthink the berserker copy-Hyde. Ultimately, though, the end of the fight should have been that the bombs go off and Nemo and Hyde escape through the hole in the wall. The roof collapses. Then, just as they relax, copy-Hyde emerges from the rubble, lifting a huge chunk of stone! Just before he hurls it, he runs out of elixir and reverts to a normal man, who is then crushed by the boulder.

I've noticed that, having watched a movie, I can frequently come up with ways that key scenes could have increased the tension, pathos, or logic with mere minutes of thought. I must conclude that movie writers are, for the most part, retarded. I realize it's harder to visualize in a script, but we're talking about scenes that were hinted at before and whose loss was greatly felt. Did they just run out of money??

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[info]eclipsegryph

September 25 2005, 03:52:28 UTC 6 years ago

Hehe, that's one of my favorite movies, believe it or not. :p For the rushed ending, I personally just think that they went too far in the "having fun" department, if you know what I mean. Overall I loved it, though.

However, I would have thrown my drink cup at the screen if Quartermain's hand burst through his grave as it seems like it was going to at the very end. Damn suspense.

[info]aubri

September 26 2005, 00:21:08 UTC 6 years ago

Hehe. Yeah, it definitely suggested a sequel. I was saying to my brother, "Africa won't let me die", or "Africa won't allow me to remain dead"?

In the sequel, if Tom doesn't reminisce about faking his own death after meeting Quartermain, I'M going to throw something.

[info]eclipsegryph

September 26 2005, 13:20:12 UTC 6 years ago

Oh there won't be a sequel, thankfully. It was good enough on its own, but too many fans disliked it for the bastardization of the comics, and too many non-fans disliked it for being just another run of the mill yawner. >.>

[info]aubri

September 26 2005, 20:04:19 UTC 6 years ago

Ahh. No complaints there, then!

[info]archai

September 25 2005, 03:52:35 UTC 6 years ago

Of course, coming up with any body of work *entire* is loads more work than spending a few minutes tweaking a couple scenes from someone else's movie to your taste, with alterations that to *you* would have made things more meaningfull. Even in cases where personal taste is not an issue you have the benefit of distance from the work itself as you haven't spent the last howevermany months writing it, and in cases the authors are also hampered as you aren't by directors/actors/set builders/etc. not quite following the script. It's a "last 2%" effort; coming up with the other 98% of movie is not exactly a triviality, and if it's good enough to inspire you to go after that last 2%, it has been in large measure successfull. It's not quite fair to call them retarded.

...well, okay, so it's fair to call *some* of them retarded. Where there are ruined scenes throughout the movie, and things are in other ways just plain bad, maybe *then*. Like, say, the ruined dialogue scattered throughout Star Wars' New Trilogy, and honestly probably LXG (entire) as well.

[info]aubri

September 26 2005, 00:30:44 UTC 6 years ago

I think you're right, that one of the problems is being too close to the script. So how hard would it be to hand the script to someone else, cold, and get their opinions on it?

[info]archai

September 26 2005, 00:35:22 UTC 6 years ago

Probably much easier than what the author goes through already trying to sell the script, and/or the endless review process it recieves in the filmmaking.

[info]aubri

September 26 2005, 00:44:05 UTC 6 years ago

True enough. In this case it really just feels like they didn't shoot the script--like they shortcutted something to hurry up the production. As I said, there are these threads that just... don't go anywhere, and it just seems odd to leave them hanging there. You mentioned the "last 2%", but it's that tweaking that makes me switch from, "Not bad..." to "THAT WAS AWESOME!" It's really frustrating to be able to see how the movie could be so much better, but it settles for mediocre. The copy-Hyde fight in particular I found very antclimactic.

[info]archai

September 26 2005, 01:00:02 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah, admittedly the last 2% is worth a lot. It wasn't so much the application to this particular movie that I was talking about, though, because in this case I agree; it was the blanket statement about movies in general. I can think of at least a few cases in my limited cinematic experience where I think you *could* write the film better, but saying that about movies generally is...um...pretty bold.

I know what you're talking about, though. It's really, really frustrating to see loose ends hanging around like that that they just *so easily* could have picked up and run with, but didn't.

Anonymous

September 26 2005, 20:01:01 UTC 6 years ago

I suppose what it comes down to is my thought that if you're going to spend several million dollars on a movie, shouldn't you make sure it's as good as it can be? I realize not every movie can be a blockbuster, but... well, actually, why not? Sure, there's the occasional dumb idea, like this upcoming Doom movie, but there seems to be a certain perception among Hollywood types that "oh, it's just a summer action flick, don't put too much effort into it" or "we've got big-name actors, that'll be enough to attract enough viewers to make up for production costs and a tidy profit beside". It's really no surprise that famous directors have proven track records of good moviemaking--they're the ones, I feel, who understand that production schedules are ultimately mutable* and that spending $20 million for a $23 million take is silly when spending $21 million will produce a $40 million take.

*Also, big names are more likely to get away with this, but that's another issue I have with the studio system.

[info]aubri

September 26 2005, 20:02:23 UTC 6 years ago

Er, that was me. Blah.

[info]psycho_gryph

September 25 2005, 16:45:53 UTC 6 years ago

I actually disagree with your ending of the fake hyde encounter. Not that it's bad and it may have been a bit funny too as the guy realized his predicament. But personally I think that the whole "monster surviving some fatal bodily injury just long enough to scare the heroes without actually doing anything" routine is over done.

[info]aubri

September 26 2005, 00:29:01 UTC 6 years ago

You may be right, but you could easily play that up with some more dialogue about running out of elixir. I'm not suggesting that he "just happens" to show up and scare them, so much as the heroes deliberately out-think him and keep him busy long enough to lose. As my brother was saying, the key to all the mirror matches should be that the heroes are fully aware of their powers and weaknesses, and have bought that expertise through hard experience. You can't just turn invisible and be as good as the Invisible Man; he's an expert at all the ins and outs of BEING invisible. Carrying a knife, for example, kind of ruins the effect. Jeckyll knows just how much of the potion to drink, and how long it'll last, and his capabilities as Hyde.

[info]thatcatgirl

September 27 2005, 13:11:52 UTC 6 years ago

Note: Being in Venice would have been a lovely time for Tom to offer to take her out for Italian food after they save the city. Oops.

That does sound fun. I think when I watched it I had a vague dread of it coming up in a everything-gets-worse-comedy way.

[info]luna_the_cat

September 27 2005, 19:13:41 UTC 6 years ago

Meh. The movie was all right, I guess. I liked the comic better. Of course, the only thing the movie and the comic had in common was the name.
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